23. Baby Fever Dreams

The spirit of a dead relative is trying to infiltrate Olivia’s womb. Zach takes a crack at reading Olivia's dream…...

The spirit of a dead relative is trying to infiltrate Olivia’s womb. Zach takes a crack at reading Olivia's dream as documented in emojis (and absolutely nails it), then The Dream Team uses Dream Bible symbols to break down why Victor smashed the eggplants. Victor understands why Pedro Pascal is society’s daddy, but Zach thinks he’s just some guy at Car Toys. Zach’s contrarian attitude keeps him from experiencing some of today’s top-tier television.

0:00 Intro

2:08 Spirit baby

14:36 Olivia's Dream

7:23 Olivia needs new drugs

42:48 Pedro Pascal Dream

About Dream Bible:

Dream Bible is a free online A to Z dream dictionary dedicated to helping people understand the meaning of their dreams. Unlike other dream interpretation websites or books we extensively research dream symbols by interviewing people about the events occurring in their lives at the time of their dreams.  Inspired by the work of Gillian Holloway Ph.D, we are using a database of over 350,000 dream reports to create the world's most practical dream dictionary based on the waking life experiences of regular people.


Dream Bible entries used in this episode:

Grocery Store: https://www.dreambible.com/search.php?q=grocery+store

Eggplant: https://www.dreambible.com/search.php?q=eggplant

Lettuce: https://www.dreambible.com/search.php?q=lettuce

Cashier: https://www.dreambible.com/search.php?q=Cashier

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Episode Transcript

23. Baby Fever Dreams

[00:00:00] Victor: Welcome to The Jung and the Restless. I'm Victor. 

[00:00:02] Zach: I'm Zach.

[00:00:03] Olivia: And I'm Olivia. And this is the Premier Dream Science Podcast. For real, legit science, 

[00:00:09] Zach: we swear.

 It was like a neon pink, pink and yellow fanny pack. And I just started wearing it around the house so, for example, my sister would say something, I'd be like, that's Fanny whack or whatever. And she just got really, really irritated with it. She did not think it was funny at all. I, I was just like, cut me some fanny slack. Uh, and then eventually the, the character got its name because she just lost her shit and she went, Zack, and I was like, Fanny Zack and the an entertainer was born.

[00:01:08] Olivia: That's his origin story.

[00:01:11] Zach: That's Fanny Zack's origin story. 

I contain multitudes. 

[00:01:17] Victor: Something about being like, in my thirties and married, my, my brain has just fully melted and I just like wander the halls of the house, like muttering an an bullshit to myself and I'm just like, I'm just like rhyming things and I'm rhyming. Words that don't wor like, I'm like breaking words to fake in, like make fake rhymes.

[00:01:40] Olivia: Real rhymes got boring.

[00:01:42] Victor: Yeah. I just like, just muttering insanity to myself all day long. 

[00:01:46] Olivia: Singing,

[00:01:47] Victor: Sometimes


[00:01:48] Olivia: usually talking to the 


[00:01:50] Zach: you're getting, yeah. You're getting dad brain, 


[00:01:52] Victor: Oh yeah, no big time. Big time. Dad 


[00:01:55] Zach: that's, that's how the male body tells you that it's ready for a kid. Women ovulate and men just start like reading signs out loud. 

Wait, speaking of kids and, and dad brain. And mom brain. I don't know if you wanna get into this on the pod, but Olivia, you texted me saying that you had a series of weird dream synchronicities

[00:02:18] Olivia: Oh, 

[00:02:19] Victor: Yeah. Oh, wait. Oh yeah, we're gonna do that.

[00:02:21] Zach: 

Is this pod material or is this 


[00:02:23] Olivia: it's, it's really weird. Um, yeah, probably. What do you.

[00:02:30] Victor: Uh, yeah, I mean, who cares? Yeah, no, if you want 

to. Okay. 

[00:02:35] Olivia: We 

don't have 


do that.

[00:02:37] Zach: Well, you can just tell 


[00:02:38] Victor: what about that sounded like no

[00:02:42] Zach: You can just tell me

as your friend and then we'll cut it if it's 


[00:02:46] Olivia: Okay. 

Okay. Okay. Um, okay. So

[00:02:51] Victor: this

[00:02:52] Olivia: is gonna sound like a weird, disjointed thing that I don't know.

I'll just tell you. Um, last week we were just sitting on the couch. Um, And I was kind of dotting on the dog. And Victor like, was like, oh, you'd be a good mom. And, and you said like, you'd love being a mom. He, he just said it a couple times. It's like not a thing that like he says or that you've even really said before, I think.

[00:03:18] Zach: Normally, he's like, don't go near a child 

[00:03:22] Olivia: yeah, it was just kind of like a tender moment where he is like, you'd be a good mom. Um,


[00:03:28] Victor: I'm like, you just wanna serve your own ego. 


isn't about the kid. This is about you trying to sort through your own. You should go to therapy.

[00:03:36] Zach: trying to live vicariously through this dog,

[00:03:39] Victor: This is sick. This is sick, what you're doing. Usually that's what I say. But, uh, that night I was feeling generous and, uh,

[00:03:46] Zach: and this is how she took it.

[00:03:49] Olivia: Okay, so hear me out next morning. Victor wakes up from a vivid dream, which doesn't happen very often. Looks at his phone and there's an Instagram message from like the girl that Victor dated in high school, and it was like, Hey, like, uh, this is weird, but I had a dream about you.

I had a dream that I was the midwife delivering your child, and she's a midwife in real life. Um, and that it, she was delivering our child like via a surrogate. and Victor and her chatted for a little bit, and then he told me that, and. that struck me as super weird. Like, 

that's such a strange coincidence. And so like, I told him like, oh, tell her, like, tell her that. I think that's like such a strange coincidence.

And so he did, and she, she came back with like, well, I wasn't like, I wasn't gonna go get into it, but since that resonated with you, sometimes, a spirit of like a family member or like someone important to you will. Try to come through and be like, born as your child. Um, like there's a dream spirit baby that is like maybe trying to send a message to you and maybe you should try and have a baby right now.


[00:05:14] Zach: right this second 

[00:05:15] Olivia: yeah, which

[00:05:18] Zach: well not live on the pod, but, but to.

[00:05:22] Victor: depends 

on if the energy lag a little bit.

[00:05:25] Olivia: She said Maybe this is a good time for you to try, which is like, all right, thanks.

[00:05:32] Zach: So that you

can, so that you can give birth to a family member. 

[00:05:36] Olivia: Yeah.

I think that's a little weird too. But, um, anyway, all of that happened and then there was just a series of like weird little things like, that day we were going to play. Victor and I were going to play at a house show and, I wanted to practice a little bit before we left. And so I was asking him where the guitar was and I said, where's that Al Guitar?

I've never said that before in my life. It's silly, it's stupid. It's not even a joke. I just, I said that. And then, um, he said, it's in the hall. And I went over to the hall and I grabbed it and it on the case. It said Gator cases. It was like, oh, that's funny. Like gator, like alligator, gator, whatever. and I was like, that's kind of odd.

And he was like, well, you know, maybe you saw that beforehand and like you were thinking about it 



and then we were in the car going, like driving up to go to this house show. And that's when we got the messages on Instagram about collaborating with the, the dreams that shape us guys.

And, um, And like the first thing he mentions is the Alligator Show episode. And I 


like, oh, right. 


[00:06:50] Zach: babies. 

[00:06:50] Olivia: The alligators the baby. Uh, okay. That's kind of weird. the, the thing that I sh we sh shouted out about that, that that guy was messaging us about, 

was an episode about dream synchronicity, right?

[00:07:05] Zach: yeah, with the um, Bob Hos 


[00:07:09] Olivia: Yes. And in that story, Bob Hoss pulls a tarot card 

and we are sitting there in the car and I'm like, I'm just gonna pull three cards. And I fucking pulled the same card that he pulled, like the, I don't know. Uh, there were just like a variety of little things, but like mostly. that was so weird up to that point, like that message from somebody that you haven't spoken to in eight years saying like, she had a dream about delivering our child.

And like, um, 

and then alligator came up three times, like, oh. And then also for some reason, I don't know why I decided to do this, but I, I, when I edited that episode, I made the, the title in all caps. And so when you're looking at all of the episodes, there's like, it looks like alligator is like yelling at you.

I don't know.

[00:08:01] Zach: Yeah. When I saw that, I, I, I was like, oh, Olivia's back on her meds. so she's probably never. Even seen you, Olivia. Right?

[00:08:13] Olivia: No, probably not. I think I was just the, I think it was just Victor 

[00:08:17] Zach: maybe that's, that's, that's why it was a quote unquote surrogate. It was like a, like a dream surrogate. You know what I 


[00:08:26] Olivia: Well, I think I was in the dr or like Victor's wife was in the dream too.

[00:08:29] Victor: Yeah. My, my wife was in the dream who's just like a, a stand in for Olivia and then, um, she actually knew the surrogate. The surrogate was a person that she knows that's like, um, like a friend of 


[00:08:42] Zach: well. So there's probably significance to that, like in her 

[00:08:45] Victor: Yeah. That we're not proofy to, yeah,

[00:08:48] Zach: Right. but no, that idea of, uh, a family member like channeling through the birth of another

[00:08:56] Olivia: yeah. 

[00:08:56] Zach: is actually weirdly resonant

[00:09:00] Olivia: Oh. 

[00:09:00] Zach: to me. I had a, um, Great-grandfather, I forget his first name. My, on my mom's side, uh, fr from Norway. He was, he like, he never learned English.

He was a hundred percent Norwegian, settled in Minnesota, lived on one of the lakes there. And, uh, we went up to visit him one time when I was a kid. And he had a, brother who died at like, wanna say like three years old, three or four years old, which was around the same age I was at this time. We went to visit him and he had a portrait, like a painted portrait of this now deceased brother that was made when the kid was my age and it looked exactly like me 

[00:09:47] Olivia: Hmm. 

[00:09:47] Zach: and in my toddler dumb. for some, for whatever reason, you know how like kids or like conduits to the other side, you know, like, like,

[00:09:58] Victor: Did you 

[00:09:59] Olivia: That's me.

[00:09:59] Victor: me.

[00:10:00] Zach: no, but I started freaking out. I started wailing and like, I, I, I,

I wouldn't stop crying until they put that painting 


[00:10:07] Olivia: Oh, 


[00:10:08] Zach: Like if it, and I don't like, I kind of, I kind remember, you know, how you kind of remember being

a toddler, 

how you, you kinda remember being a toddler and everything does feel like, kind of more adjacent to the spirit world cuz everything's like new and like, but somehow familiar.

and something about that painting, just like it did, it did feel like that was, that was me and it, and it, and it freaked me out.

[00:10:30] Olivia: Yeah. You hear stories about this kind of thing. I like, I was just listening to a podcast where they were talking about the, the like youngest child in their family. Like the person who wrote the story was, it was about their like little brother, since he could talk. Had memories that only their, her grandmother would know.

And he kept pointing to pictures of their grandma and saying, that's me, that's me, that's me. And he's like, you remember my little dog? like 

and it's 

[00:11:01] Zach: Yeah, 

[00:11:02] Olivia: grandma's little dog, like, oh 



[00:11:05] Zach: I've been down this rabbit hole too, like

stories of little, little kids talking about like, 

[00:11:10] Olivia: Like remembering being on the Titanic and shit.

[00:11:13] Zach: yeah, I remember one in particular, uh, a, a kid talking about, um, like the details of a, a, a fighter ship that was, or,

or a fighter plane that was flown in World War I and like describing it in great detail and how he used to pilot them.

And he was shot down,

[00:11:28] Victor: zag, I, I wouldn't describe being a toddler as being surrendered by things that are new, but some strangely familiar. So I feel like maybe you got something, something going there that like, that's not what being a toddler was like for me. Was that like that for you? Olivia

[00:11:44] Olivia: new but strangely familiar. Is that what Zach

[00:11:46] Victor: That's what Zack said.

[00:11:48] Zach: And I did say it like it

was a universal 


[00:11:50] Victor: You did. You said it 

[00:11:51] Olivia: I didn't 

[00:11:52] Victor: the universal toddler experience, everything around you knew, but somehow familiar. No, I don't think that's, I don't think everybody feels that way.

[00:12:01] Zach:

think it could just be, 

you know, 

[00:12:03] Olivia: I think you're your great, great


[00:12:05] Victor: Yeah.

I think you're a 


[00:12:07] Zach: if we're being, 

[00:12:07] Victor: us. 

[00:12:08] Zach: if we're being like, grounded and scientific, you know, it could just be what that's like being a, uh, a child with general anxiety disorder, but 

[00:12:18] Victor: Wait, 

wait. But what if that's just what anxiety is, is just like you were, you are reincarnated and still too aware of like your past lives and so you're tortured by 


[00:12:28] Zach: that's what is an anxiety is like too many copies of a copy. It's so you're starting, the lines are getting shaky.

[00:12:39] Victor: Yeah, the cl the more anxiety you have, the closer you are to like nirvana, you've almost ascended.

[00:12:46] Olivia: okay, so there's one more small piece to this coincidence story, and this is the weirdest thing. I track my cycle, like I know 


that's going on. 

[00:12:57] Zach: You watch the moon.

[00:12:59] Victor: Uh, 

[00:12:59] Olivia: like I, I track it like with a, with a biometric spring. I know exactly when I ovulate every month.

And I have never, ever in my life, like I, it's, it's clockwork for me. And I ovulated a week early and that has never happened. And, and it like, it happened to a. To a point where like my, my predicted fertile window was inaccurate. Um, like some fucking ghost is really just trying to get in there.

[00:13:32] Zach: Just get up 



[00:13:33] Olivia: Yeah.

[00:13:35] Zach: in exactly a week earlier than usual. Victor was in the hallway just singing jingles from car commercials, like, 

[00:13:46] Olivia: All 


[00:13:47] Zach: the zone. Otto Zone. Going to have me a little snow cone.

Yeah, that's spooking 

[00:13:59] Victor: women are


aren't they? 

[00:14:01] Zach: the dark continent, dude. So y y'all gonna try after this. Is that? Is that what I'm 


[00:14:09] Olivia: weren't given much of a choice in this. Like, if things go back to regular on my, uh, with my body, you know, we'll see.

[00:14:19] Zach: Pull the goalie.

[00:14:20] Victor:

[00:14:21] Olivia: the ghost was like, they're really not gonna try. All right. We gotta, we gotta kick things into gear. Can we make it happen a week early?

[00:14:28] Zach: You just wake up to Poulter guys, poking holes in your 


[00:14:31] Olivia: Oh my god,

End Intro

[00:14:33] Olivia: Zach, this is the dream that I sent to you in emojis.

[00:15:10] Zach: Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah. 

[00:15:11] Olivia: Yeah. You said you were gonna try and guess what it, what 


was You tell me my dream.

[00:15:17] Zach: Olivia sent me her dream that we're about to do in emojis I'll just go line by line. The first one is shopping cart and then a couple, so Victor and Olivia are shopping together. The next one is a man go, uh, holding his palm up. And then an explosion, and then three eggplant. So I interpret that to mean Victor exploded into a pile of dicks. And then the next line is a woman with her hand over her face, like, oh my God. And then, and then two different emojis, meaning like angry. So Vic, so Olivia's angry that Victor exploded into a pile of dicks, presumably because they're trying to shop maybe for eggplant and then a man looking sad and too sad emojis. So vi I, I, I'm assuming Victor's very, very apologetic, um, for having exploded. And then a, um, woman of color suddenly is raising her hand cuz she has an idea, uh, cuz there's a light bulb and then there's an eggplant, a knot. And uh, like magic stars. So the, I'm gonna, I'm gonna say cuz they're in a grocery store.

It's the cashier. This young lady has an idea about how to tie this pile of dicks back together magically. And then the last line is, is the same couple with a heart between them. So I'm assuming she, it worked. Victor 


[00:16:42] Victor: Honestly, 

[00:16:42] Olivia: bro, that was

literally the, that was exactly the

dream. except the pile of dicks. That was almost

exactly the dream, 

[00:16:50] Victor: but that was every, pretty much every other detail you got. Correct.


[00:16:56] Zach: So,

what was that second line where 

[00:16:59] Olivia: um,

[00:16:59] Zach: Eggplant. 

[00:17:00] Olivia: well, why don't I just, I let, why don't I just read the dream? No, 

um, because it was, that, it was boom, eggplant, eggplant. Eggplant. Uh, yeah. So we're at the grocery store.

I'm at the grocery store with Victor, and, um, I am asking him to pick out eggplant and he grabs a eggplant and he 


it. Like, he just 

[00:17:24] Zach: a literal, literal, 

eggplant. That was 

[00:17:26] Olivia: like you. 

[00:17:27] Zach: not the, the way we use eggplant 



[00:17:31] Olivia: literal eggplant. He grabs it and he's like kind of looking at it in his hand and then he's like kind of s smushes it in his hand 

and I'm 

[00:17:38] Zach: Three of 'em, 

[00:17:39] Olivia: just one of 'em.

And I was like, I was like, ah, don't do that. And then we are going over to check out, uh, we go up to the, like to the front and there were two more eggplant and he like goes and ruins the other two eggplant. And I was like,

[00:17:58] Zach: he's like, this is punk 


[00:17:59] Olivia: yeah. Like he was like excited about it. I don't know. I was like, bro, can you not?

And I told him to go get like other eggplant and then I look at the cashier who is a woman of color 


[00:18:13] Zach: That's the emoji you 

[00:18:15] Olivia: yeah. 

Um, and I, like I say, ugh, men. And um, and then I put a loose handful of shredded lettuce onto. Like a scale. Uh, and it was, it was dark, green, shredded lettuce, and I just like, I don't know where I had it.

I just like pulled it out of thin air. Um, and the lady says that's not gonna go through. And then she tells me to run back to the produce section to get, like, to see if the price had changed on the lettuce or, uh, just to get like the skew number for the lettuce. And like I start to take it off the scale and like feel like that seems too complicated.

And I, I'm like frustrated with the cashier now. Um, and like, so I just decide like, I don't want the lettuce anyway. Um, but then she takes the ruined, like the smashed eggplant and she braids them into this beautiful, like, braided eggplant thing. Um, and it was like so pretty and I, I was like amazed by it.

And, um, suddenly very happy with the service here at this grocery store. And, uh, Victor and I walk out of the store together happy, and then in the dream, we walk outta the store and I immediately tell him this dream,

like the 

dream. that just 

[00:19:42] Zach: the dream. 

[00:19:43] Olivia: Yep. 

Yeah. We, I walk outta the grocery store and I immediately tell him the dream.

And, and, and I. 

Yeah. And I said like, it feels like we had this dream together. Do you remember the eggplant? And he was like, uh, yeah, kind of. And that was the whole dream.

[00:19:59] Zach: He was playing it cool. And he didn't want to admit that he was just palming eggplant for fun rated eggplant. That sounds like a delicious Mediterranean 


[00:20:11] Olivia: Yeah.

[00:20:12] Zach: So yeah, it was close other than eggplant representing eggplants.

[00:20:17] Olivia: Yeah. If we didn't have like a cultural, 

[00:20:20] Zach: Yeah, an emoji lexicon 

[00:20:22] Olivia: yeah, 

[00:20:24] Zach: where 

eggplant somehow 

[00:20:25] Olivia: might have gotten It's 


[00:20:28] Zach: and not, bananas, or like all the other emojis that we have that are more phallic shaped than eggplant.

[00:20:35] Olivia: Yeah.

[00:20:37] Victor: So Olivia did a lot of like, work on interpreting her own dream 

[00:20:43] Zach: This, this one. 

[00:20:45] Victor: Yeah. Um, we can either, Zach, you take a crack at it. I already know, like kind of what she's thinking. So I, my, my, my interpretation is tainted, but, um, you could either try it or. Liv, you can walk us through how you got, where you 


[00:21:04] Zach: Let me take one stab at it and then, and then kind of like what symmetrical to what we just 


[00:21:13] Victor: Yeah. 

[00:21:13] Olivia: Zach's on fire

[00:21:15] Victor: Yeah, no, he's 



[00:21:17] Zach: I, I'll take one stab at it, like one quick stab and then, and then Olivia can walk us through the, the actuality of the situation, because insofar as they interpreted the, um, emojis, I feel like the, the sticking point for like what I was missing was the egg.

[00:21:34] Victor: Mm-hmm. 

[00:21:35] Zach: So I just looked up eggplant on, on Dream Bible and to dream of an eggplant represents blandness or feeling that something is just good enough. Something that is a little bit boring, a situation or choice that you think is good for you, but that others don't find interesting. A lack of excitement, flavor, or pizzazz, uh, negatively. An eggplant may reflect good advice that you don't wanna listen to because it's too boring. Putting up with boring situations are boring people. Okay, Well, I have to think about this whole dream now, I'm gonna do by looking at the emojis. You were shopping Victor. Victor was killing the boring shit. You were mad about that. Victor was sorry about that. And then this cashier was like, I have an idea. Okay. I don't know. I don't 


[00:22:24] Olivia: How about 

I tell 

you what I 

[00:22:25] Zach: Yeah. Yeah. Just, 

[00:22:27] Olivia: I came to, and then we can piece it together with Dream Bible symbols, looking them up one at a time.

[00:22:32] Zach: yeah. Since you've already Yeah, let's do that. 

[00:22:35] Olivia: Okay.

So I have concluded that this is a dream about wrestling with



or not. Yeah. But um, the way that I came to that conclusion was that I was listening to an episode that came out recently when it came out, or when I was editing it, I can't remember. Um, it was the one where Victor talked about

[00:23:01] Victor: sometimes

[00:23:02] Olivia: feeling.

um, like he has a hard time saying no to something that I want. You're very like a giving person and like accommodating and that like, I don't know. That just got me thinking and like, I realized that like, his stance on kids has not changed at all, like this whole time.

Like we've, like, talked about it a little bit, but like he has, Victor wants kids and like, I realize that I have been going back and forth and like, like kind of, he's been like very patiently like there with me. But like that ultimately.

[00:23:38] Victor: um,

[00:23:39] Olivia: I have like, not been

[00:23:42] Zach: Well, that's fair. It's a lot scarier 



[00:23:44] Olivia: well, yes. But like, that hasn't been like a, as present in my mind because, well, one, because like, you're very supportive and you're there with me when I'm going back and forth, you know?

And so, like, to me, I, like, I, I guess I kind of like forgot that, that that is a factor for me. Like that does help me to think about this like that, that that's something that Victor wants, you know? Um, and, and not in a way that's like me compromising what I want. It literally like makes me want it 


[00:24:16] Zach: Right.

cuz it's not like putting 



[00:24:18] Victor: No, 

[00:24:19] Olivia: not a pressure thing at all. It's just like, like in the same way that he wants me to have the things I want, I want him to have the things that he wants. And so it's like, it's. An incentive, you know, it like, um, it's a positive force pushing me in one direction, you know? 

Um, so yeah, that's what that dream is about.

[00:24:40] Zach: so how, how did the eggplant play into that? That's my. 

[00:24:43] Olivia: Um, 


[00:24:44] Zach: That's, the enigma for 


[00:24:46] Olivia: okay, 

so, so I mean, um, there's a few symbols in here that like really clearly lay it out. Eggplant are one of them. The lettuce, the grocery store of the cashier, the lettuce, and the cashier. Um, 

[00:25:00] Zach: which the lettuce wasn't part of the emoji 

[00:25:03] Olivia: no, I for, yeah, I guess I didn't know how important the lettuce was when I sent that to you. Victor,

would you pull those up so I can

look at them? Yeah.

[00:25:11] Victor: Okay. So Lettuce, 

[00:25:13] Olivia: to hear

how you guys see the 

connections with 

[00:25:15] Zach: somehow the, like, the marketplace, the grocery store, like, it, that, that does make sense to me. Like it does play as a, um, environment in which you would be thinking about something like this. You know, you're making choices like almost like a consumer.

[00:25:33] Olivia: Oh, there's like some of these. I think lettuce is a choice.

[00:25:37] Zach: And that's the way I always say lettuce is a choice.

[00:25:43] Olivia: What is this? Does it say to dream of lettuce represents choices that you feel aren't serious or won't bother anyone else? Issues that you. Are that you don't feel are important enough to matter or cause conflict situations or choices that you assume will be agreeable to all? Um, not feeling that you need permission or need to ask someone what they think, an issue that you feel is a non-issue due to its perceived simplicity.

That, to me, 

[00:26:12] Zach: this, oh, go ahead.

[00:26:16] Olivia: I did not think about the shredded part. Um, no. To me that feels like, um, you know, choices that you feel aren't serious or won't bother anyone else, um, you assume will be agreeable to all. That's me not considering his, um, where Victor stands in that choice and where he, like, where Victor has been this whole time is that ultimately he does want to be a parent, you know?

Um, and like I just haven't been. I've been really in my own head about like, going back and forth about it, I guess. But yeah, the lettuce seems to be like a choice that you're not considering, like the other people who it'll affect, you know?

[00:27:02] Zach: Hmm.

[00:27:03] Olivia: And

I decided to put the lettuce, I decided I didn't want the lettuce or like, that it wasn't worth dealing with.

[00:27:09] Victor: And just, just to kinda, uh, speak for myself here, cuz you've said a couple of times like Victor wants kids, Victor 

[00:27:17] Zach: Yeah. Yeah. 

[00:27:18] Victor: Um, like I, we've had more of a nuanced conversation than that and, um, there are like concerns, right? And like scenarios in which I would think that we should not have kids. And there's some some health stuff that we need to take into account before, uh, we make that decision.

And, um, like, yeah, there, there I am not like, uh, hell or high water. I want to have children person. Like, that's not where I'm at. But I have been consistent in that I've 



[00:27:54] Zach: that. You would like




[00:27:56] Victor: that. I think that like in a couple of years, That, I think that's something that, assuming that we get past, like whatever hurdles are there, that that's something that I would like to do.

Yeah. I've been consistent about that of like, that it doesn't need to be right now, but it also, you know, in a few years is a thing that, that I think that we would both wanna do. Um, yeah. Assuming there's not health stuff or other stuff that means we shouldn't, um, but, so I've been consistent about that the lettuce is, uh, like Olivia's been thinking through this, uh, without, without thinking about that.

She's been running through it as if it's like totally her own, her own choice, 



[00:28:46] Zach: Cuz maybe she's subconsciously taking it for granted that you are just game

[00:28:50] Victor: Right. 

Yeah. Um,

[00:28:53] Olivia: Yeah. And that you're, you are so agreeable. Like when I am in a place where I'm like, I don't think I wanna do that. You're not like, oh, but what about me? Like, you know, you're not, you're, you've never 

like, um, like made a case the other way or anything. Like you're, you've been very much like riding my rollercoaster of like, back and forth and like, been chill with that, which has made me like, I guess I kind of lost sight of like, oh yeah, no, actually this whole time you have been like saying that, like, you do feel good about doing that ultimately, you know?

[00:29:29] Victor: Right. And that's not to say that if you didn't land at a place where you said, I definitely don't want kids that I like, wouldn't Yes. Be with you. Yeah. I would be, yeah. I don't, would 

[00:29:37] Olivia: I

don't feel that way


[00:29:39] Zach: Yeah.

you can always adopt.

[00:29:41] Victor: Yeah. Or not, 

[00:29:42] Olivia: yeah. 

[00:29:43] Victor: kick back and have a good old time. 

[00:29:45] Zach: Yeah. I think, I don't remember what the context of the conversation was, but I, Olivia was the person that told me that. Sometimes when women give birth, their clitoris can split. 


[00:29:57] Victor: Yep. 

[00:29:58] Zach: And 

[00:29:59] Victor: that's 

a good reason to not 

do it. 

[00:30:01] Zach: when I learned that, I was like, damn, if that was even a remote possibility for men that, like if there was even a fraction of a possibility that your penis would split when you have a kid, the human race would go 


[00:30:14] Victor: That's true. 

[00:30:15] Olivia: Yeah. That's true. Yeah. If men had to give birth,

[00:30:19] Zach: We would be wrapping it up three times. We'd be using three Trojan and Spermicide and have a vasectomy.

[00:30:31] Victor: the potential that having kids ruins our sex life has, uh, definitely been a topic of

[00:30:36] Olivia: mm-hmm.

Yeah. I'm 

[00:30:38] Zach: mean, it

might, for a while, it'll come back.

[00:30:42] Olivia: Will it?

[00:30:42] Victor: But it doesn't always, that's the thing, it doesn't always 



[00:30:47] Zach: But it's up to you. 

[00:30:48] Olivia: It might be that might be up to us, and if it is up to us, then I feel fine about that.

[00:30:53] Zach: yeah, you can make it come 


[00:30:55] Olivia: We can make 



[00:30:56] Zach: when you're both operating on two hours of sleep a night, it might be gone for a 


[00:30:59] Victor: Can we make it come back if her cli explodes though? I don't know. I don't know about that.

[00:31:05] Zach: You might need some bionic surgery.

[00:31:09] Olivia: I've changed my mind


[00:31:12] Zach: We have the technology, we can rebuild it.

[00:31:16] Olivia: Um, okay. But I like, let's look at these symbols cuz there was like, there was a lot in there. Um, the eggplant

[00:31:24] Zach: Yeah, that's the part that I'm stuck on still, cuz it seemed to represent like something that's bland, but good for you. And I don't know how that plays into having 


[00:31:35] Olivia: good or 

like, good enough? Just good enough.

[00:31:40] Victor: I think, um, if I remember Kurt and something that we've talked about, um, is like, our life is pretty good. We, we've got a pretty damn good life. And, um, we could see ourselves just chugging along doing what we're doing indefinitely, right? Um, and so sometimes when we talk about doing something like

different or bigger, like throwing a kitten in the mix, it's like a big part of that equation is like, well, but what we have is so good.

Do we want to give that or do we wanna like risk losing that or changing that, right? And so I think the eggplant of being like something that is good, but I mean like, yeah. And you know, you could see it as oh yeah, it's a little bit boring. We've been doing the same thing for a while. If we keep doing the same thing for another, you know, 40 years or however long I'm alive, depending on how much bacon I eat or whatever, you know, like this, maybe a little boring boring's, not bad, but this may be a little boring, you know?


[00:32:40] Olivia: or like, it could, it could become boring. Whereas like if you have a kid, it's like they're 


[00:32:47] Zach: you 

think that 

[00:32:47] Olivia: through growth and changes and like every, every week is different. And then every month is different. And yeah. So the, the eggplant smashing the


[00:32:57] Victor: me disrupting the eggplant 

would be like, 

[00:32:59] Zach: that's what I was gonna say is do you think you, as Olivia, having the perspective of Victor as somebody who wants kids smashing the eggplant being like, I don't want boring.

[00:33:10] Olivia: Yeah. And well, so it was just him, I think. I think what I got from it was that he was expressing like a want quietly, like gently. It was not like he was not throwing a fit or making a scene. He was just like, squish, 

like, he 

just like 

[00:33:25] Zach: it's just squish. 

[00:33:27] Olivia: Um, and like, and then he kinda looked at me with like this like little smile.

Like, he thought it was like cute, like, I don't know. He like showed it to me like, look, look what I made. And, and then I was like, 

[00:33:40] Zach: a little 

[00:33:40] Olivia: no bad, like bad 

bad, husband, bad husband

put it back like, yeah, I like, and then he got, and then he like kind of had like a sad, like, you felt like dejected or like, shut down.

I shut you down in that. Moment. So like, uh, 

yeah, yeah, 


[00:33:59] Zach: is coming together. This is coming together. Yeah.

[00:34:02] Olivia: Yeah. let's 

see. Oh, 

the, there was 


[00:34:05] Zach: cashier a person of color?

[00:34:08] Olivia: oh, I 


I don't 

know if I've looked that. I don't think


I don't think that that's relevant, 


like, the 

way that the cashier and the lettuce relate to each other, 

I remem, if I remember 


[00:34:19] Zach: the grocery store you go to happens to have a diverse.

[00:34:23] Olivia: it's diverse in my brain. What can I say?

[00:34:26] Zach: I don't see 


[00:34:28] Olivia: We value diversity in my 


[00:34:32] Zach: at Kroger. Um,

[00:34:36] Olivia: So like what I was saying though is, if I remember correctly, if you look in the Dream Bible, the cashier entry and the lettuce entry, like. 

Kind of mirror each other. They like relate 




[00:34:48] Zach: I, I can't help a picture. Whenever I see shredded lettuce in the grocery store, I picture them putting it through like a Office Depot


[00:34:55] Olivia: what it

looked like. It looked like the Easter grass. 

[00:34:59] Zach: Yeah. 

[00:35:00] Olivia: Um, and it was also a dark green color, which I, if I remember, if I remember correctly, is like a negative, um, like 

[00:35:08] Zach: It's not, 

[00:35:09] Victor: Yeah.

[00:35:10] Olivia: Um, 

[00:35:11] Zach: lettuce is usually light green.

[00:35:13] Victor: So 

lettuce is, uh, choices that you feel aren't serious or won't bother anyone else.

Um, and generally, like the thing that seemed relevant was not feeling that you need permission or need to ask someone what they think, an issue that you feel is a non-issue due to its perceived simplicity. Um, assuming it will be agreeable to all. So kind of thinking that you are making a choice that only affects you, only you care about every whatever you, wherever you.

It's all the same to everybody else. And then a cashier to dream of a cashier represents awareness of consequences of your choices, noticing the personal cost of your decision, what you have to face in life to get what you want, um, to dream of being a cashier. Well, that's not you, but still you can see there's like a, there's a juxtaposition there, right?

Um, lettuce is a weightless decision and a cashier is a weighty decision that affects other people.

[00:36:11] Olivia: Yeah. Like the, the lettuce is, the lettuce is a choice. The cashier is an awareness of the consequences of your choice.

[00:36:18] Victor: Yeah. Well, but, and the lettuce is specifically a choice you think has no consequences, right?

[00:36:25] Zach: Yeah. 

So for, because you said that the cashier kind of tossed the lettuce aside, 


[00:36:31] Olivia: No, 

I, no, she, um,

[00:36:34] Victor: she says, you have to go back. Right?

[00:36:36] Olivia: She, yeah. So it was like I put the lettuce on the scale. She basically said that like, it wasn't gonna scan like that, and that I needed to go get the skew number. And I, I decided that it wasn't worth it, and I was frustrated and I kind of 

cast the lettuce 

[00:36:53] Zach: And you were like, okay, that's where I got my wires crossed. You were the one to be like, fuck this 


[00:36:59] Olivia: Yeah. 

I said, fuck the lettuce.

[00:37:01] Zach: he didn't want to be bothered to go get the 


[00:37:04] Olivia: Yeah. It was, it seemed like frustrating and inconvenient. Not worth it.

[00:37:09] Victor: So if you think about that, it's like, okay, you had this thing that's like a Mimi me thing, and then it's like, oh wait, there are consequences to this decision. don't want anything to do with it.

[00:37:23] Zach: Nevermind.

[00:37:24] Victor: There's a other, like this matters, uh, 

[00:37:29] Olivia: which

just like reiterates the like, selfishness of it too.


[00:37:35] Victor: Hmm.

[00:37:36] Olivia: What is grocery store

[00:37:38] Zach: It's where you buy grocer.

[00:37:41] Victor: But to dream of a grocery store represents decisions being made that help to sustain you for the short term. Keeping a good situation going by addressing your short term needs. Confidence about knowing what you can delay, confronting a problem or delay in unpleasant situation from occurring. Feeling that it's easy to deal with your problems just for now.

[00:38:03] Olivia: Okay.

[00:38:03] Zach: Yeah, that.

[00:38:05] Victor: I forgot what I was gonna say. What were you gonna say?

[00:38:08] Olivia: I was gonna say that it made me think of the, the eggplant entry. Like just, yeah, like the, that feeling like something is good is just good enough and like, maybe like boring, but you know, it's like,

it's not, um, everything that you're hoping

and dreaming for.

[00:38:28] Victor: Yeah. It denotes a certain, like maybe dissatisfaction 

[00:38:32] Olivia: with mm-hmm. 

[00:38:33] Victor: the life we have, which I think like we have, right? It's like we're very happy. We got a lot going for us. Things are very good. We don't wanna lose the things that we have. At the same time, like you and I both have like unmet career ambitions. You and I both have unmet, like personal and, and um, artistic ambitions that we're still chasing.

Like, life isn't perfect, it's pretty damn good. Mm-hmm. And we, there's a lot of stuff that, um, we wanna make sure that like, we don't lose, we don't lose like, you know, the value of our close relationship, the, the security that we have, the comfort that we have, the stability that we have. We don't wanna lose those things.

[00:39:14] Olivia: freedom to pursue those other things that we haven't felt are fulfilled yet.

[00:39:18] Victor: Right, right. Um, yeah, that's the thing. I mean, that's the thing that comes up for me with. Um, being like, if we were to choose to start a family, that is part of why, it's why for me, it's been, that's a few years down the road is because I do feel like, well, there's other stuff I wanna accomplish that I think is gonna be a lot harder to pursue once we start a 

[00:39:40] Zach: have a kid.

[00:39:41] Victor: So I want to be Victor plus I want to be where me, but with a like a few other, you know, successes under my belt before I like, dive into that particular challenge, you know?

[00:39:52] Olivia: Right. Um,


[00:39:55] Victor: So I think like that's not a bad thing, right? That's very human to be like, oh, well I want, I want more. I want to do blah, blah blah.

I want to accomplish this. You know? That's where we're at.

[00:40:08] Olivia: Yeah.

[00:40:09] Zach: Yeah. It is human and it's especially considerate of the unborn kid.

[00:40:15] Olivia: Hmm.

[00:40:17] Zach: You know, cause you, you don't, you don't wanna be in a place where you're eventually like blaming that kid for you not 

accomplishing what you've set up to accomplish.

[00:40:27] Victor: absolutely. 

Yeah. Yeah. That's a, that's a real trap, you know?

[00:40:32] Olivia: Yeah.

[00:40:33] Victor: Um,

[00:40:33] Olivia: you see people blame their, uh, shortcomings on a lot of external things. Like if it's


oh, my partner or like, X, Y, or Z or money or whatever, like yeah. Sometimes it is those things, but, um,

[00:40:50] Zach: Yeah. Cause that kid is gonna hijack a lot of

attention necessarily. 

[00:40:55] Victor: Yeah. 

[00:40:56] Zach: That is part of having a kid.

[00:40:59] Victor: Like, I, 

I mean, I had a weird childhood. And, um, so part, so part of it for me is like, if I start a family, I wanna like give it my all. Like, I, I wanna like be able to fully throw myself and fully throw my, my attention into it. I want to make it, um, a central part of what I'm doing on Earth. And so, um, I wanna be in the right place to do that 

when it 

[00:41:34] Zach: good to have those other things out of the way.

[00:41:37] Victor: Right? Yeah.

[00:41:38] Olivia: Yeah.

[00:41:40] Victor: I got quiet in here.

[00:41:43] Olivia: Alternatively, dreaming of a grocery store may reflect anxiety issues related to health, issues with food sensitivities. Anxiety about not being able to buy the special food or health products you need.

[00:41:56] Victor: That changes everything. Maybe that's 


this dream 


[00:41:59] Zach: awfully on the 

nose. Surprised I

don't have that dream more often cause I find myself in the grocery store all the 


[00:42:08] Olivia: for your special foods.

[00:42:10] Zach: flipping bottles over being like, is this vegan?

[00:42:13] Olivia: Yeah. 

[00:42:14] Victor: Well, we, this 

[00:42:16] Olivia: came pre cracked,


[00:42:17] Victor: yeah.

[00:42:18] Olivia: Good job with those emojis. 

I had like another dream like right after that, that was really clearly about kids because there were kids everywhere and pregnant people everywhere. And um, it was, uh, like a dream featuring Pedro Pascal and he was, uh, 

[00:43:05] Zach: Is that the guy from last among 


[00:43:07] Olivia: Last of us. Yeah. And 


[00:43:09] Zach: last among 

[00:43:10] Victor: among us. Last among us.

[00:43:14] Olivia: Yeah. It was like a Pedro Pascal daddy dream. Which is just funny because I feel like I'm ab absorbed all the memes about that and was like, all right, here's society's daddy.

[00:43:29] Zach: What does that mean? I don't,

I've never seen that show.

I don't know. 

[00:43:34] Olivia: He is 

like America's heart throb right now.

[00:43:38] Zach: really,

[00:43:38] Olivia: Yeah, 

[00:43:39] Zach: he just looks, he looks like a guy that you would, uh, see at like car toys.

[00:43:46] Olivia: It's about his personality car twice.

[00:43:50] Victor: It's not really about his personality because like you don't know his 

personality. He's 

[00:43:54] Zach: what is it about then? 

[00:43:56] Olivia: That's true. I don't know. I don't know what I, I don't, I don't personally, um, I don't feel like I personally get it. It's just like I've seen so much about it, like pop up that I think, uh, it just infiltrated my dreams

[00:44:13] Zach: Yeah, he just looks like the dude that you would see at the back of a kinera.

[00:44:20] Olivia:

[00:44:20] Victor: know. I get it.

[00:44:22] Zach: Yeah. Like, like he's 

no, he, he's nobody's dad. He is, he's like a perpetual 


[00:44:27] Victor: No, I mean, 

[00:44:28] Olivia: he gets the daddy

[00:44:29] Victor: I get the daddy thing. I, I get the appeal is what I'm 


[00:44:34] Zach: I know. I I don't, he just looks like some dude at the dmv.

[00:44:40] Olivia: Is it car toys, the DMV or a quinceanera?

[00:44:43] Victor: Zach

[00:44:45] Zach: All three. They're equally mundane. To To an 


[00:44:49] Olivia: Quinceanera is not mundane.

[00:44:51] Zach: To an adult. It is. Have you been to a Kansas scene recently? Not that fun.

[00:44:58] Olivia: Um, 

[00:44:59] Zach: kids don't blow themselves up with fireworks.

[00:45:02] Olivia: but in my Pedro Pascal dream, uh, we, we ended up 

on this, 

[00:45:07] Zach: You sure want Victor here with this.

[00:45:09] Olivia: he's heard it, it, he, he like, he was like a boat cop taking me on like a ride along to find a body in a barrel. And, um, Zach,

[00:45:22] Victor: I know the sexual energy is un insane

[00:45:26] Zach: He on

a ride along to find a body.

[00:45:31] Olivia: we ended up on this beach at night and there was, it was like a party. 

It was like 


[00:45:37] Zach: Are you gonna let her to keep talking 


[00:45:39] Olivia: there was, there


[00:45:41] Victor: I'm into it.

[00:45:42] Olivia: there was a, it was a festival celebrating dreams in my dream on the beach. And everyone was pregnant and there were little kids 


[00:45:59] Zach: They were pregnant too.

[00:46:00] Olivia: No, not everyone was pregnant except for the kids. And then suddenly I had a kid, and then there was like this kerfuffle where I needed to like throw some trash away and like, I like left my kid for two seconds. And then when I came back, some lady was trying to take my kid. And then there was this scenario where like the authorities were like, who's your mom to the kid?

And she like, my kid, like, said that the other woman was her mom, which was a lie. and then this lady took, took the kid away. I know. That was my exact reaction. I was like, you fucking Brad. Um, and then I like ran and was like, Pedro, we gotta go. And um, and 

then he hopped up. Yeah, I don't know. I guess he was, I guess he was, I don't know what his deal 


[00:46:49] Zach: The father of your 


[00:46:51] Olivia: No, I don't think he was the dad, but he was like the daddy.

[00:47:00] Victor: All right. That's the end of the episode. 

[00:47:02] Zach: Yeah. 

[00:47:04] Victor: Going to bed.

[00:47:08] Zach: Is that the end of the 

[00:47:10] Olivia: Yep. that 

was it. Yeah.

[00:47:13] Victor: What was the deal with the kid? The kid was like that. No, that's my mom. And then wasn't there like another layer of bullshit?

[00:47:19] Olivia: Mm-hmm.

[00:47:20] Victor: It's like, I remember you and you came out of that looking really bad.

[00:47:25] Zach: Yeah, she did come out of this looking really bad. 

[00:47:30] Olivia: Let me 

[00:47:30] Zach: The

layer of bullshit is you having to compete with Pascal. 

[00:47:36] Olivia: or Zach is really, um, going to bat for you. Vic. Victor's not threatened.


[00:47:41] Victor: I'm, I'm good. Yeah.

[00:47:44] Olivia: Uh, lemme see. Oh, I also tried to tell people about the podcasts at the Dream Festival. Let's see. Oh, and I also, there was a little kid that was like guessing the gender of their sibling because their parent was pregnant.

And, um, and then I started talking to people about how kids are psychic. Um,

Yeah, no, the only other detail is that, uh, like when I was like, Pedro, we gotta go. Like he, and he jumped up and ran. I like remembered commenting. Um, that I liked how that was written. Like, I was like, that's good dialogue.

[00:48:26] Zach: The thing that you said

[00:48:29] Olivia: Yeah. I 

was like a note for the writer. Yeah. I was like, I felt like I was in a movie or something. I was like noting like it was a note for the writer or something,

which I guess was


[00:48:41] Victor: Yeah. 

[00:48:41] Zach: stuff that was coming outta your mouth. You were like, this is deserve an Emmy.

[00:48:46] Olivia: I don't know. I, I felt like I, somebody wrote the script for me and it, I guess it would be my subconscious.

[00:48:53] Victor: Do you never feel that way when you're writing something? I feel like you're supposed to feel that way when you're writing. You're like, ah, this is good shit. People are gonna love this. And then you look at it the next day and you're like, this is the worst pile of garbage that's ever been put on paper. And then six months later you're like, no, it wasn't that bad. Actually, there was some good stuff in 


[00:49:12] Zach: Yep. No, that's the creative process. 

[00:49:14] Victor: Right. 

[00:49:16] Zach: In a nutshell,

[00:49:18] Victor: haven't watched the last of us?

[00:49:20] Olivia: Yeah. What the fuck?

[00:49:23] Zach: no, 

[00:49:24] Victor: Come on,

[00:49:25] Olivia: You gotta, you

got it. 

[00:49:27] Victor: it's very good.

[00:49:30] Zach: contrarian. 

[00:49:31] Olivia: Yeah. 

[00:49:32] Zach: I, don't do things that are. 

[00:49:34] Olivia: Eh, man, 

[00:49:35] Zach: I'm watching. I'm not actually 


[00:49:38] Olivia: Wow.

You're missing out. Yeah. Very good. 

If you, if you


if you don't watch

any of it, just watch episode three.

[00:49:47] Victor: Wait. Okay. Okay, 

[00:49:49] Zach: Oh. Oh. I finally watched Barbarian 


[00:49:52] Victor: Oh, 


[00:49:53] Olivia: Nice. 

Right. So watch what we tell you to watch Zach

[00:49:56] Victor: Yeah. Okay. 

about the last of us. The last of us is garbage. Forget about it. Don't overthink about it again.

Until you're done watching. The next thing I'm gonna tell you to watch swarm.

[00:50:07] Olivia: Oh, watch Swarm.

[00:50:08] Victor: on Amazon. Watch Swarm.

[00:50:10] Olivia: But actually watch the last of us

[00:50:12] Victor: really, okay. 


watch The Last of 

Us is 

[00:50:14] Zach: of Us sounds like a huge commitment and I 

don't, I'm not, 

into that. it's a series 

[00:50:20] Victor: it's not gonna go on that long. No, it's a, it like they're, they're doing like, there's like two games and they're gonna do the two games and they're 

[00:50:28] Zach: games. What are you talking 


[00:50:30] Victor: It's based on a video game. It's based on like a very well received video game. It's actually very good. It's actually very good.

[00:50:39] Olivia: You're like a kid who's like, I don't like 


[00:50:43] Zach: I'm, I'm 

like a, 

[00:50:44] Olivia: it. 

[00:50:45] Victor: Well, you're gonna be really cool in 2028 when you're, uh, tweeting on super Twitter. Like, Hey, is anybody remember the last of us watching for the first time?



[00:50:57] Zach: guys seen Game of Thrones? It's actually pretty good. 

[00:51:03] Olivia: Yeah. 

[00:51:03] Zach: Um, no, I couldn't get through Game Thrones. I don't watch a lot of tv. I have a hard time committing cuz it's, it's such a commitment.

[00:51:14] Victor: Watch Swarm. It's one season. It ends after one season. 

[00:51:19] Zach: Okay. 

[00:51:19] Victor: It is very good. And it's like horror adjacent.

[00:51:24] Zach: Do I have to get H B O?

[00:51:27] Victor: You really, I mean,

[00:51:28] Olivia: should,

[00:51:29] Victor: this isn't, this isn't a podcast anymore, but 



[00:51:32] Zach: I've never seen a second of anything on H B O.

[00:51:35] Victor: That's probably our, do we really wanna be talking about TV for this long on the,

[00:51:41] Olivia: we haven't been talking about it for that long.

[00:51:45] Victor: HBO's 

[00:51:45] Olivia: we talked about, we talked about the Kellogg serial guy for like 30 minutes a couple 



[00:51:51] Zach: You mean Dr. Kellogg,

[00:51:54] Victor: HBO's probably the, the most worth it streaming app of 

[00:51:59] Zach: but I've gone this long. 

[00:52:01] Olivia: You went to film


[00:52:02] Victor: worth being proud of.

[00:52:06] Olivia: Let's just shame him into it.

[00:52:09] Zach: It's just wasting my precious time on, on television. I don't, I 


[00:52:14] Victor: What, else are you doing, Zach? What are you, what are you doing with that free time?

[00:52:21] Zach: Got a lot of stuff on my agenda. 

[00:52:23] Victor: Yep. 

[00:52:23] Zach: Yep. 

[00:52:25] Olivia: It's about 

[00:52:26] Victor: what I thought

[00:52:28] Olivia: he just made a jerking off motion 


anyone. If 

[00:52:30] Zach: No one needs to know that 

[00:52:32] Olivia: they.

already know that.

[00:52:34] Zach: I'm doing stuff. I got, I got, I got big stuff in the works. I got a lot of tabs open. no, no. I have a hard time getting into, into like television shows. lot of the classics,

mad Men Sopranos, um, the one, the one about the women? No, what what is the

[00:53:07] Olivia: Handmaid's 


[00:53:08] Zach: Thank you, thank you hands, man. The one about the women

[00:53:12] Olivia: I like how I knew what you were 

talking about. 

[00:53:15] Zach: may, maybe the most insensitive thing I've ever said. Uh, I, I, gave all the Game of 


[00:53:22] Victor: what's that? Uh, lady problems. What was that?

[00:53:26] Zach: You know, the one where they're all in the rag, the Game of Thrones. Like, I've, I've given all of these shows, like three episodes each, and I just can't, I just can't get 


[00:53:38] Olivia: Those are all really slow shows that you're 



[00:53:42] Zach: Yeah. But I feel like if you can't get into it in three episodes, 

[00:53:45] Olivia: Yeah, but like that, I,

I see what you mean. There's like validity there and not all shows are like 


[00:53:54] Victor: But you keep 

yeah, you keep going 

[00:53:56] Zach: three hours. 

[00:53:57] Olivia: you're going 

after. Those are dramas

[00:54:00] Victor: on 

dramas. What you need to do is get H B O for like the top tier dark comedies.

[00:54:07] Zach: yeah. You know what, I, I have seen a few episodes of Barry.

[00:54:11] Victor: that is. Oh my God. Such 

[00:54:12] Olivia: That is the best fucking show. If you are not gonna watch anything, watch Fucking 

Barry. And

[00:54:18] Victor: they're 

[00:54:18] Zach: feel like if I had hbo O 

[00:54:20] Olivia: You would 



[00:54:21] Zach: into 

[00:54:22] Victor: have, you need to,

you need to get H B O. Actually,

[00:54:24] Olivia: actually, we're not gonna record again

until you, do 

[00:54:27] Victor: you need to watch Barry and then 

watch Search party. 

[00:54:30] Zach: Eastbound and 

[00:54:31] Olivia: my God. Search 



[00:54:33] Zach: search party looks 



[00:54:34] Olivia: search party is so good. We literally Watched

it twice, like within a year almost.

Yeah. super fucking good.

So good. It's one of those things where it's like you get done with it and you're like, I wish I could forget it all so I can watch it again. Right now,

[00:54:48] Victor: first episode is not very good. 

[00:54:51] Olivia: Yes.

[00:54:51] Victor: that, 

[00:54:52] Zach: the pilot almost never 


[00:54:53] Victor: Yeah. 

[00:54:54] Olivia: I dunno 

if I've 

[00:54:55] Zach: I disregard 

[00:54:56] Olivia: during a show before, like we

cackling. That's so good.

[00:55:02] Victor: I could fully talk to you about movies and TV for the next half hour, but we are currently recording a podcast, 

[00:55:09] Olivia: Thank you for listening to The Jung and the Restless.

You can follow us on social media at the The Jung and the Restless Pod and submit your dreams for interpretation to The Jung and the Restless. Pod at Gmail. 

[00:55:21] Zach: And as we always say, ma'am, ma'am, this is a dream. 

[00:55:24] Victor: Wendy's. Wendy's. 

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